tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post2156774825006913477..comments2024-03-27T21:12:31.654-04:00Comments on Politics and its Discontents: And Now, A Word From PropCanLornehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15741324981120408977noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-70628792357588449652015-01-03T20:42:26.361-05:002015-01-03T20:42:26.361-05:00Good points, Dana. Alison at Creekside has a post ...Good points, Dana. Alison at Creekside has a post about polls and their limitations that you might find of interest:http://creekside1.blogspot.ca/2015/01/poll-23-of-us-are-con-loonies.htmlLornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15741324981120408977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-90460251802894570702015-01-03T20:17:38.882-05:002015-01-03T20:17:38.882-05:00From the article: "In 2012, about 45 per cent...From the article: "In 2012, about 45 per cent of Canadians said voting was a matter of choice rather than duty. In 2014, only 39 per cent agree that’s the case; a solid majority — 61 per cent — said going to the polls was part of their duties as citizens." <br /><br />Does this mean that in 2012 55% of people felt voting was a duty? Pretty good figure too really and look what we got. <br /><br />People lie in surveys and portray themselves in as virtuous a light as they can. There is also a significant number of people included in any given survey who simply don't know what they are talking about - for lots of reasons. We used to have to winnow out as many as 4 or 5% of responses to questions like "where do you shop?" because people would still tell us Woodwards, Eatons, Woolco - stores that hadn't existed for years. People will still say they plan to vote for the Progressive Conservative party in the next federal election. Even have seen, heaven help us, Social Credit. Given the percentages of useless, meaningless opinions I've seen I don't trust opinion polls at all.<br /><br />Even the best and most rigorously honest of polling companies have to weight their demos due to falling response numbers - how did this one do it? They never tell you that part in their methodology statements. And the demo most difficult to achieve is precisely the one most important to acquire. A fiddle is too easy.<br /><br />Besides the dog hasn't been wagged yet. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-91077348330758309572015-01-03T15:08:28.950-05:002015-01-03T15:08:28.950-05:00What you suggest tends to be supported by an artic...What you suggest tends to be supported by an article in today's Star by Susan Delacourt, Dana, although there is one bright note: <br /><br />In 2012, about 45 per cent of Canadians said voting was a matter of choice rather than duty. In 2014, only 39 per cent agree that’s the case; a solid majority — 61 per cent — said going to the polls was part of their duties as citizens.<br /><br />You can read the complete article at this address:http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/01/02/canadians_trust_in_elections_low_before_2015_federal_vote_delacourt.html#Lornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15741324981120408977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-81315491070619904602015-01-03T15:03:36.483-05:002015-01-03T15:03:36.483-05:00Clearly, Salamander, from what you demonstrate her...Clearly, Salamander, from what you demonstrate here, the trail of Harper corruption is extensive and deep.Lornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15741324981120408977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-19119795625513988992015-01-03T14:53:39.812-05:002015-01-03T14:53:39.812-05:00There is no "or". An up-the-middle squea...There is no "or". An up-the-middle squeak in Harper majority is a near certainty with the turnout this sad, complacent, dying, little nation of sheep is able to generate. Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-778977195595194402015-01-03T13:32:42.663-05:002015-01-03T13:32:42.663-05:00.. Its not hard to point to the tailings ponds of ..... Its not hard to point to the tailings ponds of 'Conservative' values<br />They're visible from outer space, in plain sight via news media & Twitter<br />and targets for any intelligent politician, curious student or pensioner<br />I especially like how bluntly each failure, broken 'promise', deceit<br />or conceit can be simply described for consideration and consequence ...<br />Here's an example ..<br /><br />Our government, PM Harper, his political party, Nigel Wright, staffer Jenni Byrne, former spokespersons, current MP's, John Baird, Senators, PMO etc still choose to remain silent on the matter of Ken Morgan, 2011 Conservative campaign manager, Guelph <br /><br />Mr Morgan, who cannot be found, & last seen in Kuwait UAR, accessed, had Party permission & legitimate passwords to CIMS voter database as well as the criminal Election Fraud Robocall account of Pierre Poutine, which he shared with at least one other campaign worker. <br /><br />239 other ridings experienced similar Vote Suppression & Election Fraud with 'Bingo Cards' & CIMS voter data used to focus Robo & Live Call disinformation on non Conservative voters in vulnerable ridings with close contests, during the federal election.the salamanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853337802990122289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-91232010496522363642015-01-03T12:25:49.640-05:002015-01-03T12:25:49.640-05:00I much prefer the 'Or,' Anon.I much prefer the 'Or,' Anon.Lornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15741324981120408977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7884128379999766348.post-84195083461995908702015-01-03T11:47:21.401-05:002015-01-03T11:47:21.401-05:00Nothing to see here, folks.... move along.
The pu...Nothing to see here, folks.... move along.<br /><br />The public is not yet disenchanted enough to see through any of this.<br /><br />Another election will be bought. Four more years.<br /><br />Or.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com